FFW True Street Rules...

[89LX306]

Hey guys, give me a little insight here. I was told in the past that you had to have an "interior" in your car to run in true street. While my car doesn't need an interior to drive 30 miles, I want to know if this is something they will make a fuss over? Right now I don't have a rear seat, rear carpet, rear interior panels. It's just sheet metal from the rear floor boards back. Should I go ahead and throw that stuff back in?

Thanks for the help.

Also when do your guys register? Do you do it when you get there or before hand? Can you do either or?

Thanks.

The TS Rookie

[Saleen91]

Fun Ford Weekend True Street Rules (http://www.funfordevents.com/Rules/rules.phtml?catid=9)

After a quick glance, I dont see anything about the interior.

[Blue91]

While Im not sure about now, I know you DID need the interior panels and if you didn't have the backseat, you needed it carpeted. Im not sure how strict they are on that though.

As far as registering for the event, I usually pay Friday night when we get there to grab our pit spots. At ennis, how they have done it the past few years is they charge you for a weekened spectator ticket ($35) then you go to a building inside the gates and pay the DIFFERENCE for the class you want to enter. For true street, you show them your weekend tickets and give them another $25 and they give you your tech card.

This way is a little different than the way Houston FFW does it. They just charge you for what you wanna run, at the gates.

[89LX306]

Thanks fellas. That's what I was looking for.

I looked around on FFW's site before I posted and I didn't see anything either. I may just go ahead and throw that stuff back in. I've been thinking about putting the seat back in anyway.

[WA2FST4U]

It all depends on who looks at your car. I've seen some not even look inside. Most of the time they will ask you what it runs. From there they might check to see if you have a roll bar, balancer.

I've also seen a stang (Atlanta) that didn't have but 1 seat in it and no panels!!!

Do like I did if you want to distract them. Ask them (while pointing) to something in the engine bay if it is ok or not (battery hold down, zip tie to hold the dipstick down..etc.)

=)

[Guffinator]

I'm no expert here...but from what I witnessed at FFW in Houston the rules are there kind of for show. The official is real quick to turn a blind eye to certain things. Of course I'm sure that varies from official to official.

[White90GT]

I did FFW Houston with only one race bucket in the car. He never looked twice. Asked what I was gonna run, I said well I'm looking for the low 12 class, so if I don't run good enough in the first two, then I'll use the juice and run an 11. He said OK, all looks good. I also have a rigged up battery hold down using a piece of tin metal strip strapping to the fender. Didn't say anything about it.
I'm wondering if I'm supposed to have long axle studs now that I'm running the ET Streets. Jerry at HRP didn't mention it, but he's cool with me. Maybe I'll ask him this Saturday about it. Got my cousin's spare set of nittos on turbines if they make a deal out of it though.

[Blue91]

Originally posted by White90GT
I did FFW Houston with only one race bucket in the car. He never looked twice. Asked what I was gonna run, I said well I'm looking for the low 12 class, so if I don't run good enough in the first two, then I'll use the juice and run an 11. He said OK, all looks good. I also have a rigged up battery hold down using a piece of tin metal strip strapping to the fender. Didn't say anything about it.
I'm wondering if I'm supposed to have long axle studs now that I'm running the ET Streets. Jerry at HRP didn't mention it, but he's cool with me. Maybe I'll ask him this Saturday about it. Got my cousin's spare set of nittos on turbines if they make a deal out of it though.


I believe the rule is as long as you run 11's, you need them. I could be wrong though.

[WA2FST4U]

Originally posted by White90GT

I'm wondering if I'm supposed to have long axle studs now that I'm running the ET Streets. Jerry at HRP didn't mention it, but he's cool with me. Maybe I'll ask him this Saturday about it. Got my cousin's spare set of nittos on turbines if they make a deal out of it though.

Long studs are required when running: Slicks and Drag Radials (including ET Streets). Driveshaft loops is also required when running the aforementioned tires.

[89 coupe]

I don't have my rulebook in front of me and its been a couple of years since I read it, but from memory.
The stud must protrude at least halfway into the hex portion of the lug nut. This I'm remembering well.
With stock turbine wheels the stock studs are plenty long enough but with Weld Draglites you need a three inch stud or (maybe) slightly shorter to be legal. Mine are three inch on all four wheels. They can look at the front wheels also if they want to.
Not real sure about the next one but here it goes.
If you are running 13.99 or faster with slicks or 13.0 with any tire you have to meet the above requirement.

The last rule above might be for the driveshaft loop.

[WA2FST4U]

Originally posted by 89 coupe
I don't have my rulebook in front of me and its been a couple of years since I read it, but from memory.
The stud must protrude at least halfway into the hex portion of the lug nut. This I'm remembering well.
With stock turbine wheels the stock studs are plenty long enough but with Weld Draglites you need a three inch stud or (maybe) slightly shorter to be legal. Mine are three inch on all four wheels. They can look at the front wheels also if they want to.
Not real sure about the next one but here it goes.
If you are running 13.99 or faster with slicks or 13.0 with any tire you have to meet the above requirement.

The last rule above might be for the driveshaft loop.

I thought it was that lets say the width of the stud is 1/2", then at least 1/2" of the stud must protrude out from the lug nut.

I'm just confused and this was just a question. ?????

[89 coupe]

Originally posted by WA2FST4U


I thought it was that lets say the width of the stud is 1/2", then at least 1/2" of the stud must protrude out from the lug nut.

I'm just confused and this was just a question. ?????

I believe they dont have to protrude out even though mine do.
I've seen several cars including a friends 8 second ride that have screw on covers over the ends of the lug nuts. I was told these covers are removeable for inspection of the studs.
You got me curious now. I'll have to dig out my rule book and read it again. But I know I'm legal :blue:

[Blue91]

The rule is that they have to protrude from the end of the lugnut by at least the same linear amount as the diameter of the stud.

[89 coupe]

Ok here it is straight from the 2002 NHRA rulebook.

All wheel studs must project into the hex portion of the lug nut by a distance equal to one diameter of the stud.

[White90GT]

Well, sounds like I may be running on my cousin's nittos then. I'll line up for tech with the ET's on to see, maybe I'll get lucky.

Can the long axle studs be installed with the axles in place, or would I need to pull them?

[WA2FST4U]

Originally posted by White90GT
Well, sounds like I may be running on my cousin's nittos then. I'll line up for tech with the ET's on to see, maybe I'll get lucky.

Can the long axle studs be installed with the axles in place, or would I need to pull them?

I've never been able to install/change-out long studs without having to pull the axle out some. This was made easier by having c-clip eliminators though (didn't have to pull the rear cover). If there is a trick to doing it, I would be most entertained. :D

[TRAXX]

I have run in a number of true streets. They dont look at shit. I have most of the interior stripped on my blue car...no prob. And never had long wheel studs on it either and was running 28 inch tall ET streets.