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Neighbors
07-02-2002, 08:57 PM
Homebuilt harmonic balancer installer…

Installing a harmonic balancer can be a trying task, and one that often leads to damage to the crankshaft threads or broken fasteners (and much dinero to have it fixed, unless you’re a PoMoFo). They make professional balancer installers, but they can be quite costly, and unavailable at 1:00a.m. on a Saturday morning.

The PoMoFo solution? Why, build your own of course! The things can be made fairly easily and cheaply, and greatly simplify installation while reducing the risk of damage to the balancer and crank. The details below outline how to build a Ford harmonic balancer installation tool.

Parts required:
1 - 5/8-18NF grade 8 all thread x 8-3/4” long (or so; I bought a 36” stick and cut it into four equal lengths)
2 – 5/8-18NF grade 8 nuts
2 – 5/8 hardened flat washers
1 – T5 input to main shaft thrust bearing (you have blown up a T5, haven’t you? Well, keep the parts!)
1 – 3/16” roll pin (from a…T5!)
1 – 1/2” pipe coupling, approx 2-1/2” long* (or 2-1/2" of 3/4" pipe...)
1 – heavy duty washer with a 2” O.D. (maybe two)*

Note: The above “*” marked items can be substituted for a 3” diameter slug of round bar (or plate) with a 11/16” diameter hole drilled through the middle).

Assembly:
Cut the all-thread to length, and chamfer both ends on a bench grinder or high-speed sander.
Screw one nut onto the all-thread until it is flush with the end.
Drill a 3/16” diameter hole completely through the nut and all-thread.
Drive the 3/16” roll-pin into the hole until flush on one side. Remove the extra length with a grinder or sander (this ‘locks’ the nut to the all-thread).
Weld the heavy 2” washer to the pipe coupling (I had a threaded pipe flange that I found fit the ID of a Ford balancer perfectly!)
Screw the other nut onto the all-thread, up close to the ‘fixed’ nut…
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Use:
[list] Start the balancer onto the snout of the crank, after applying a light coat of oil or anti-seize…
Slide one hardened washer, the thrust bearing, then the other hardened washer onto the all–thread…
Lubricate the all-thread with anti-seize or light oil to reduce friction and galling...(added per D!)
Slide the pipe coupler/washer weldment (or drilled slug/plate) onto the all-thread, and screw the whole assembly into the crank snout (screw it in as far as possible, minimum 1”…)
Screw the ‘loose’ nut on the all-thread while holding the fixed nut, thereby drawing the balancer into position.
Once seated completely, remove the installer assembly and store in a safe place (I keep mine in tool box :D!).


You may find that the 8-3/4” long length of all-thread is a bit too long to install a balancer in the car. I was able to use mine on my ‘91LX without trouble, but the end did stick into the fan blade area a bit. I think a 7” to 7-1/2” long piece would be about right…

Have fun!

Bubstang
07-02-2002, 09:02 PM
Thats pretty handy. Not sure if you remember, but I had to change mine at FFW at HRP cause the back spun off my balance. What a pain in the rear to do at the track. At least it wasn't August...

Blue91
07-02-2002, 09:04 PM
I just used mine the other night to install the FMS balancer onto Cristina's motor, and let me tell you, it makes it CAKE. Dont risk screwing something up by HAMMERING your balancer on, or trying to draw it on with the bolt. I originally tried this with my FMS balancer and almost ruined my crank. I DID ruin the bolt and had to tap the crank. Also, I needed 175psi to get it out of the crank when it lodged in. Anything but a stock balancer, in my experience, has needed a balancer installer to get on. Now that I have one, I'll use it even when installing stock balancers.


Thanks for the write up Chris...

Blue91
07-02-2002, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Bubstang
Thats pretty handy. Not sure if you remember, but I had to change mine at FFW at HRP cause the back spun off my balance. What a pain in the rear to do at the track. At least it wasn't August...

I remember that and remember saying outloud, "I wish I had known, I'd have brought my balancer installer." It is this part that I was speaking of. hehe.

Neighbors
07-02-2002, 09:15 PM
Sorry to hear that Bubba; I just got mine finished about a month ago, but did the cutting/pinning about a year ago?

Well, I have one in my box if anybody needs it, LOL!

Chris

(easier to write a short blurb than to just relay the details to one or two...)

maveRick
07-02-2002, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Neighbors
Homebuilt harmonic balancer installer…

Great info, Nay!

More! More!

illfated
07-03-2002, 04:07 AM
Hmmmmm.........

*illfated thinks about changing some of that to suit GM purposes.....

thats friggin kewl Chris.....

i watched fred install tha balancer on cristina's motor, and it made it look so easy. i might just have ta see about makin' one-a them there thing-a-ma-whats-its.

red95gts
07-03-2002, 11:25 AM
Very Nice Chris!

I've used the one you sent me about 8 times now and it works like a champ! Only downside is that, after repeated uses, the threads get a little gunked up. Might want to lubricate the threads to avoid that.

I don't have the thrust washer, but use a piece of 2" pipe and two washers....

After having the balancer bolt on my 95 lock the funk up while trying to "draw" the balancer on.......I'll never install one without this...

Saleen91
07-03-2002, 11:39 AM
great info!

I've been thinking of a less kludgey way to fab one of these than my of of a long ass bolt and a bazillion washers. :)

Blue91
07-03-2002, 11:56 AM
Definitely worth it, but yeah, I'd like to get the bearing as well. I used anti-sneeze on the threads.

Neighbors
07-03-2002, 12:02 PM
There you go D! I added a 'lubricate' line to the 'use' section, LOL!

I get so used to using anti-seize on everything (along with Wal-Mart carb cleaner!), that I tend to forget to add these notes. I do it w/o thinking, LOL!

Shawn, I'll check usage on an SBC; we may have to change all-thread sizes, but the point is the same...

I may go off and make a few of these, say 7" long (36" stick cut into five pieces). Would anybody be interested in contributing to the material pot for one? If I do this, I'll search out a thrust bearing has an ID closer to 5/8", as you can see where the bearing rode eccentrically on the washer (not bad, and didn't hurt performance, but would like a way to center the big one, or find a smaller one...).

How do you guys like to see small things like this? Would you prefer an area somewhere where you can download a .pdf, or dos this work out fine? I have drawings for headstands I'd like to put up, although most everybody has one now, LOL!

Nay!

CobraRanger302
07-03-2002, 12:02 PM
pssst...we rent the harmonic balancer tool at autozone:D

Saleen91
07-03-2002, 12:04 PM
the last I checked ( a couple of months ago ) Autozone doesn't have a balancer INSTALLER for rent, just a puller.

illfated
07-03-2002, 08:14 PM
chris... i have a spare short block in my garage so i can check tha threads to see what they are.... its just a matter of remembering, gettin of my ass, and remembering while im off of my ass. :)

Blue91
07-03-2002, 09:33 PM
Chris, I, for one, would like to see it in the same format as your gear write up, etc. and we could have it in .pdf format avail for download from the "tech articles" section. That way all the articles are formatted the same, and when you have them printed out, you could use a 3hole punch and make a nice binder containing the articles. Could be very nice and neat looking if each article looks similar in the appearance.

That's just my opinion.

Regards,

Traceman
07-04-2002, 11:14 PM
Great article Nay!!!:D

illfated
07-06-2002, 02:34 AM
Nay!!!! i found out that chevy made 2 differant sizes of bolts for the crank pulley/balancer bolt. they are 5/8" and 13/16". reading this i remembered back to when i was changing my timing set... and if my memory servers me right, mine is a 5/8". so count me and jot my name down on that list fer needin/wantin an installer. :)

lemme know how much you need me ta drop down on it and ill get it out to ya. :)

(information courtesy of ARP and Summit)