National Power Company SUCKS!!!

[Saleen91]

www.nationalpowerco.com

Everytime I call them I get this song playing, that sounds like from Louis Armstrong called "We have all of the time in the world"... Uh no we don't. At least I don't have all of the time in the world to be on hold and hear this song play, along with "It's a beautiful world" 3 times each before you answer my call!

This company has thoroughly pissed me off. I signed an 18 month contract with them to lock in my electric rate (11.8 cents/kwh). Before the contract time frame is up I get a letter saying that they are no longer going to honor my contract and up my rates, with roughly 4-6 months left on my contract. So I switch to another provider that same day and get the best rate available at the time, (14.8 cents/kwh). The next day I get another letter saying "Sorry we made a mistake. We're re-instating your contract at it's original rate." So I switch back. Then the next day I get a letter saying that they're pulling out of the Texas market and I'm being automatically switched to "Provider of Last Resort". So I go to switch AGAIN, and the rates went up between the time I originally switched to now (15.8 cents/kwh). NPC just screwed me for the first time.

Now the provider I was switched to, aka "Provider of Last Resort" per the Texas PUC, wants a deposit of almost $1000 or else they will disconnect my service. I call and tell them that they're smoking crack. I have a credit score above 800 and haven't had to pay a deposit for electricity in over 15 years. They basically tell me to pound sand and pay up, or else get a "letter of credit" from my previous electric provider stating that I paid my bill on time for 12 consective months. Really? Can't you just pull something like that up from my credit report? I'm told they did review my credit report and that's why they're asking for the small chump change of $1k for a deposit! Wait a second, you want me to call a company that LEFT THE TEXAS MARKET for a letter saying I paid my bill on time? Sure, let me do that. See first paragraph about continual music on hold. NPC just screwed me for the 2nd time.

Now, I'm down to the wire. Reliant says my time is up. Pay up, or get cut off. I call NPC, see first paragraph again, asking where is my "letter of credit" that I requested over 7 business days ago that you said only takes 5 business days to produce? "Well, we had a system crash a few days ago that is delaying that process." I explain my situation that I have with my new electric provider/Reliant and plead for some compassion and basically get no-where. NPC just screwed me a 3rd time.

So since I've been screwed THREE TIMES by the same company, I'm letting everyone, everywhere, know what a PIECE OF CRAP company NPC is to deal with.

[trbstang]

Welcome to the same boat I was on, Ben! I was with NPC since August of 07, with basically the same 18 month 11.9 cent rate. I SHOULD have changed when I got the first letter, I would be saving about 1.5-2 cent per KWH over what I have now. But after seeing the Ch 2 news report, I hoped they would come to a compromise and maybe only raise it a bit. Now their revised rate of 15.3 looks pretty good.

Reliant gave us no problem switching to one of their plans, and our credit score is not as good as yours, but we had the account with them in my wife's name for 22+ years and never paid a deposit. They basically picked up the old account.

I just don't want to see this month's bill, with 1 week of the POLR rate of 22 cents per KWH, plus the additional usage and higher rates, my June bill will probably go up 150% from May. I hope I can get back on balanced billing.

Good luck Ben!

[Blue91]

Weird, I didn't have to put anything down with Reliant when I moved to the apt. Sounds like you should look into one of the other companies besides Reliant too.

[HoustonLX]

Welcome to the wonderful world of deregulation. Did you know Houston/Texas area has some of the highest electric costs in the country? It's because of deregulation. The idea was to bring in more competition in the hopes of lowering costs when in actuality, the opposite happened. If you look around, you will find that happened just about everywhere that went deregulated. Many of these energy companys like NPC are actually infact only evergy brokers and don't actually make electricity. I saw on the news the other day that several of these energy brokers have folded with as many as 20-30 on the verge of doing the same. I have always been a firm believer is still with an actual energy producer like Relient. I pay slightly more for electricity, but don't have to worry about the energy broker doing what NPC is now doing.

[Saleen91]

Slight update... NPC just emailed me a letter of credit, but it's for SOMEBODY ELSE, living near Austin, TX!

STRIKE 4!

BTW, I did shop around, on this last go round and Reliant offered me the cheapest rate I could find, if I would sign a 2 year contract, which I did.

[Saleen91]

BTW, what's the channel 2 news report you're referring to?

[HoustonLX]

http://www.click2houston.com/news/16251234/detail.html

[trbstang]

Thanks Shane! Yes, that news report and the resulting pressure by the PUC is the reason for the "oops, sorry" letter. Then they realized no way could they make it and bailed on the whole residential market. @#$%^& Oh well, I guess I saved a good $300+ over the past 2 years vs staying with Reliant. But I'm wondering if this is all a ploy by Reliant and maybe TXU to drive out all the small players and get everyone back with the big companies? They can now offer a lower price I guess, and still stay profitable.

[HoustonLX]

but I'm wondering if this is all a ploy by Reliant and maybe TXU to drive out all the small players and get everyone back with the big companies? They can now offer a lower price I guess, and still stay profitable.

Believe it or not but Relient was actually in favor of going to deregulation and strongly supported it. They knew it would drive up the cost there by driving up proffits. I worked for Relient back when electricity became deregulated.

[White90GT]

We were using Dynowatt, switched to them a year or two ago for the lower rates. Well, we got last months bill in last week and about $hit. Our little 2370 sq ft house was $765 for the month! Holy $hit. The most we had ever been before was just under $500.
They evidentally jacked the rates up a little the month before, then a lot last month. By a lot, I mean over the last two months it went from around 12-13cents/kwh to 24 cents for May! It doubled!
We're switching back to reliant at around 15-16 cents with 2 yr contract.

[HoustonLX]

We were using Dynowatt, switched to them a year or two ago for the lower rates. Well, we got last months bill in last week and about $hit. Our little 2370 sq ft house was $765 for the month! Holy $hit. The most we had ever been before was just under $500.
They evidentally jacked the rates up a little the month before, then a lot last month. By a lot, I mean over the last two months it went from around 12-13cents/kwh to 24 cents for May! It doubled!
We're switching back to reliant at around 15-16 cents with 2 yr contract.

LOL! Yet another welcome to the world of energy brokers.

[Saleen91]

Holy crap! $.24/kwh? Screw that!!

[89LX306]

Our little 2370 sq ft house was $765 for the month! Holy $hit.


YIKES!


Have any of you guys ever done any sort of energy audit on your homes. I haven't, but I wonder if it would really pay off for some of us. I'm in the process of building solar screens for my house (DIY of course). So far I have $250 in it for 14 windows along the back and side of my house. I will probably double that cost for the front side of the house. I must say that the AC has been running less and for shorter periods. I'm curious to see the difference in billing.


Here is part of my screen job. This window is roughly 7'x8' so I made it in 2 seperate screens. Easier to remove and store. Hopefully it will make a difference.

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/15482/2987953210065288846S500x500Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2987953210065288846YlYjEJ)

[Saleen91]

I haven't, but I think my house is pretty well insulated considering it's made of cinder block and not 2x4. 3500 sq ft, with a pool, and I use around 2000 (+/- 200) kwh each month.

Our biggest improvement was going to new, more efficient, compressors and air handlers, along with a larger tonnage unit for the downstairs system.

[Blue91]

Kyle, I've been planning to do screens for a while now. I'd love to DIY vs paying someone else. Do you have any reference info on how I'd go about doing them?

[red95gts]

Granted, price per Kwh has changed some, but when I first moved into my house, we were getting some pretty insane electric bills. I think the highest was around $450 in the middle of the summer. I ended up adding solar screens, which helped some, but not a whole lot. What made the biggest difference was updating both HVAC systems to current, high-efficiency units.

My bill last month was $137. Keep in mind we wash & dry 2 loads of laundry PER day and do at least one load of dishes. It's incredible how much it made a difference.

Ben...I don't know what the current rate is, but I'm with Gexa Energy and have been happy with them so far. Although, for all I know, they could be on the brink of financial ruin also. LOL!

Good Luck..hope you get it sorted out.

[63T-Bolt]

damn and my last electric bill was $50 bucks and i was pissed.....

[trbstang]

I had Gexa before NPC, they were decent, the rate I had was 12.9 cents, but then it went up so I changed. They are a division of Florida L&P, so they are pretty secure like Reliant and TXU.

[Silversnake91]

I'm currently with Ambit Energy. I believe my rate was around 13.9 a few months ago but when i checked it a little bit ago it is 16.7. might be time to look elsewhere.

Mike

[White90GT]

Darrel, whats the approximate cost of replacing one a/c unit? I haven't really looked into it, but I do believe our a/c unit was installed around 98 in our house. We moved in 2002.

[gc90notch]

Darrel, whats the approximate cost of replacing one a/c unit? I haven't really looked into it, but I do believe our a/c unit was installed around 98 in our house. We moved in 2002.

depends on brand and the size of the unit. we have two and were quoted ~$1700 for our upstairs 2.5 ton unit and ~$2000 for our downstairs 3.5 ton unit.

[red95gts]

I don't know individual cost, but I've replaced virtually every component in both systems to the tune of around $10K. That includes outside units, evap cores, furnaces, filter units, plenums, etc. My original stuff was from when the house was built (1991)

Obviously, it's going to take a long time before I'm out of the red on that investment, but I needed new stuff anyway, and I look at the electricity savings as a bonus. Also, I figure that if I pay $300/mo toward new HVAC equipment, I'll eventually be able to see some of that back in return when I sell the house. If I were to keep the old equipment, yet send that $300/mo to Reliant Energy, I would never see that money again. At least that's how I justified it to myself. LOL

[White90GT]

I wonder how much the unit itself would be. My dad took a class at SJC and is certified to install a/c units. We build small individual apartments and he is doing all the wiring and a/c work on those 864 sq ft houses.

So we could install a new unit and even a new air intake to help efficiency in the house. My house is 1 story and 2370 sq ft. I'm thinking its a 3.5 or 4 ton unit.

[89LX306]

Kyle, I've been planning to do screens for a while now. I'd love to DIY vs paying someone else. Do you have any reference info on how I'd go about doing them?


Fred,

I've been using www.qualitywindowscreen.com to order my parts. I bought frame and screen (Phifer) locally, but the big box stores lack large amounts of decent hardware.
I decided to go with aluminum internal corners instead of plastic. They require a miter cut and take a little more effort to make, but I feel they will last longer than the plastic.

You can also dress them up with their "Muntin Bar Frame". I plan to do that on the front of the house. Also use crossbars if your windows are very tall. I think they recommend that in their "How To" section. They have some good tech info on there based on what type of windows you have and what type of attaching hardware you are going to use.

You can also purchase ready made screens through them based on your measurements. They have been very easy to make. My first screen was a little off because it was over 6 feet tall and I didn't use a cross bar. I left the excess screen on it simply because it was my first. I'll pull the spline out and stick a cross bar in there and call it good.

Overall I'm real happy with them.

[red95gts]

One of the things I went for that I'm very happy with is the "Whole house air filter units" that instal just before the blower motor/furnace. I no longer have filters in my air intake registers.

The theory is that when the thin, 1" thick filter at the register clogs up (even slightly) it creates a restriction. At that point, the negative pressure in the air inlet plenum starts looking for a less restrictive path. Usually, this means pulling in hot air from the attic or inside the walls, which reduces overall system. I was under the impression that the intake chaise would be sealed up tightly, but apparantly that's usually not the case with production-built homes.

The 5" filters I use now are more expensive (~$43 each), but they are good for ~12 months and in the long run, it's actually cheaper than the $10 filters I used to buy and swap every other month. We've also noticed less dust in the house compared to before.

[Rusman]

Darrell, I've always wondered about the 1" filters. We have a dog that sheds and the filter is relatively clogged after about 2 weeks, and needs to be replaced pretty soon after that, though I don't do it until after 4 weeks. How do those 5" filters hold up against lost of dust or shedding pets?



My bill last month was $137. Keep in mind we wash & dry 2 loads of laundry PER day and do at least one load of dishes.
That sounds like my house!! LOL.

I haven't compared my kw/h usage, but we added solar screens about a year and a half ago (Lone Star Solar Screens) and it cost right at $1000 for about 28 windows I think is what we have. I can definitely feel a difference in our living room which has a lot of big windows. The room doesn't get so hot during the day.

We also got rid of the full size fridge we had in the garage. Not only was it taking up space, but we never used it other than storing drinks, so we got a small beverage/dorm sized fridge with no freezer. It's energy star so it probably uses as much energy in one year as the old full size did in a month!

My house is 4 years old and we have a 12 seer unit. Shortly after that the mandate for 13/14 seer units was enacted, so I bet I could save more if we upgraded, but I won't be doing that until it's necessary.

[red95gts]

Darrell, I've always wondered about the 1" filters. We have a dog that sheds and the filter is relatively clogged after about 2 weeks, and needs to be replaced pretty soon after that, though I don't do it until after 4 weeks. How do those 5" filters hold up against lost of dust or shedding pets?


Honestly, I don't know. Our dog is 10lbs and doesn't shed, so it seems to do pretty well! haha My filters are up in the attic. I would assume it would be difficult for the dog hair to make it up that far, but I don't know....

All my stuff is brand-name (Lennox) and the price probably reflects that. But, after a house in my neighborhood burned to the ground from a furnace problem, I wasn't willing to skimp on anything. If I would have gone with lesser components, I'm thinking I could already have them paid for with the savings from the electricity bill.

[trbstang]

Darrell, I've always wondered about the 1" filters. We have a dog that sheds and the filter is relatively clogged after about 2 weeks, and needs to be replaced pretty soon after that, though I don't do it until after 4 weeks. How do those 5" filters hold up against lost of dust or shedding pets?


Ive actually used two filters in my vents before, one of the cheap fiberglass ones and one of the better 3 month ones. I changed the fiberglass ones every month or so, and the good one every 2-3 months as recommended.

[BigRed]

I replace my filters every couple weeks in pure pomofo fashion.

Step 1 - Remove Filter
Step 2 - Fire up the 5hp shop vac and work it over
Step 3 - Replace Filter

Also, I just signed a 24 mo with Reliant
14.3 till Nov 1 and 15.8 for the ramaining 24 mo's

[madforce]

We were using Dynowatt, switched to them a year or two ago for the lower rates. Well, we got last months bill in last week and about $hit. Our little 2370 sq ft house was $765 for the month! Holy $hit. The most we had ever been before was just under $500.
They evidentally jacked the rates up a little the month before, then a lot last month. By a lot, I mean over the last two months it went from around 12-13cents/kwh to 24 cents for May! It doubled!
We're switching back to reliant at around 15-16 cents with 2 yr contract.

I am with Dynowatt and had not been looking at the kilowatt per hour charge being I was in at $.107/hr. Last month my bill was $636...wtf??? Prior month was $216. So I reviewed my kW/hr charge going back to Dec. '07 and saw that it went up each month (.107, .11, .13, .14, .16, .24). I nearly fell on the floor when I saw my bill at .24. I went to their website and locked in at .168 for two years and got a $100 refund. That was the best rate I could find after searching all the energy rates in Texas (Google on "Texas energy rates"). My neighbor had the same thing happen and his bill was almost $1K!!

I bumped up my programmable thermostats a few degrees and to honest, my house is still nice and cool (2.5 year old house @ 4200 sq. ft). Damn, with utilities and property tax ($14K a year), it's getting really expensive to live in Texas!

[Saleen91]

Texas is just playing catch-up with the rest of the country when it comes to property values.

[trbstang]

Just got my first bill from Reliant. It was less than I expected, only $299!!! This was with a $75 promo credit, and get this, They didn't charge me the higher POLR rate for the first week! I expected about 9 days of $.23 KWH since they said they couldn't "chage" me to the locked in rate until June 9th when they did a special meter reading (for an additional $5 or so).

But surprise, all my usage for 29 days from 5/30/08 - 6/27/08, was at the 10% off rate of $.1422 per KWH!

Maybe because they reopened our old account, they messed it up. It showed my last billing amount back in Sept 06 and my last payment on the current bill!?!?

It is pretty sad that I am getting excited about an electric bill that went up about $61 over what I would have paid to NPC. But get this, it ended up being less than the NPC rate when you factor in the $75 credit!

Hope your bill turns out as well as ours did Ben!

[Chuck98GT]

I have been payin 15.4 with Reliant on a 2 year fixed rate plan, now 15 months I just got a letter in the mail that the rates will be changing and I'll have a small window to change my plan without penalty.

Maybe they will be nice and let me pay 17 or 18 cents instead.

What do you guys think the best plan is out there? Granted Reliant has never fucked up my billing or threatend to turn off my power, so they aren't all bad.

-C

[darva]

www.powertochoose.org

:)

I had first choice power when we lived in our townhouse... Before we moved, I had received a letter to lock in my rate, but I didnt' since we were moving anyway... I had .12 rate and the lowest they would give me was .148 on the "lockin" Not horrible I guess. I really liked them however. I have also heard several good things about Gexa and if you fly alot, you can get Continental miles... so that can be handy too. :)

[Saleen91]

Alright.... so here's an update.

NPC sent me a letter of credit for some other cusomter out near Austin. It was down to the wire so I edited the letter to have my name and account # on it, and sent that over to Reliant. Reliant accepted it and removed my $980 deposit requirement 1 day before they were to cut me off!. That same day, NPC FINALLY sent me the correct letter of credit with my name and Acct # on it. FINALLY!

So I just received my 1st Reliant bill for an entire month. I have to say Reliant offers some nice features. I can log into their web site to pay my bill (NPC I couldn't), see what my bill and kwh usage has been since I've been with them, avg daily kwh usage, and average high temp for where I live. Interesting statistics.

So for the last month, the average high has been 94^, we've used 2088 kwh, with an avg daily usage of 63 kwh.

[HoustonLX]

We have been using Relient. With our currect 2 year plan, we pay .139 per KWH. Our last bill we just got was $230 with the average temp of 94^. Our house also uses natural gas (HW heater, oven/stove, etc), but that seperate bill has only been running about $30/m. I guess that is not bad considering it is the summer and the wife, twins, and 13 y/o son are always home. We usually keep the thermostat at 77^ durring the day and 76^ at night. I think our 2 year contract is coming up soon so we will see in a few months what changes. I prefer Relient cause they are stable and like said, provide many options.

Our winter bills usually drop down to around $60-$70/m for electric and up to $60-$70/m for gas.

[Rusman]

Bringing up this semi-old post as the Reliant man came knocking on my door this weekend. His offer was a 'special deal' just for our neighborhood, whatever, but the deal is 16.6c/kwH, with no monthly fee and no contract. It's hella better than what we are paying now at 19.x. The catch is they can raise the rate up to 20% without notification, but any more than that and they have to send us a 45day notification. The guy said they can (not sure if they will) lower rates in the fall when they typically drop. With the rates they are now, I would be surprised if they did drop them.

So I'm wondering if I should stick with this deal or look around for a better one? I like the ability to not be locked into a plan, but judging by what some of you guys are listing, I can get a couple of extra pennies off the rate, plus a credit, but I'm locked for an extended period.

[gt350mustang]

I don't see why you can't find a better rate and be able to actually lock it in. Be careful, many providers will quote you the per kilowatt price without taxes and fees so it ends up more than a competitors rate after everything has been factored in. www.powertochoose.com

[trbstang]

I just read an article on how the supply of natural gas has increased drastically over the past few weeks, causing the price to drop considerably. The article was talking about new methods of extracting it from older wells. Due to the excess, they speculated the price drop will probably last for a while. Hopefully there will be some competition after summer is over, and the electricity prices will fall. Too bad for those of us that have locked in at a high rate, say .15 or more, if it drops, we will have to pay cancellation fees or just continue to pay the higher rate.

[red95gts]

I just (as in last Friday) locked in for 12 months with Gexa at 15.5 cents. More than my expiring 12.69 plan, but that kind of rate doesn't exist anymore.

[Boosted50]

I worked for an energy trading company, and like Enron, they made more money trading with themselves. So much of the revenue was money from that type of trading.

[Chuck98GT]

Just called Reliant and negotiated 14¢for the next 6 months, plus they are giving me $50 credit and waving the $5 monthly charge.

Beats the hell out of the 18¢ they were raping me for.

[Saleen91]

Well I think it's time to screw myself.

I've been on a 2 year contract with Reliant at 15.8 cents/kwh. Now I see I can get fixed contract rates with just about anyone for 11.5 cents, which would save me about $100/month. The problem is that I have to pay a $300 cancellation fee with Reliant to get out of my contract. :(

[trbstang]

Same boat here. But I figured out the savings should pay for the penalty in 4 or 5 months for me, that leaves 19-20 months of savings on a 2 yr plan. I thought about calling Reliant, but doubt if they would budge. Now to find the $$$ for the fee and a new deposit I'll probably need.

[Saleen91]

Yeah that's my next step is to find out if I have to do a deposit w/ whomever I go to and if Reliant has some silly rule that I can't come back ever w/out paying the $1k deposit to them if I do break my contract.

BTW, the best fixed rate right now seems to be with Gexa Energy...based up on my research.

[trbstang]

Yes, I saw that. I had Gexa (Florida L&P) before I went to NPC. I should have just stayed there, eventhough the best rate they had when my contract was up was like .14 vs NPC's .12. Oh well, I feel like the customers are getting screwed every which way with this. Reliant locked a lot of people in during the summer when their rates were the lowest around, now they are among the highest.

[Rusman]

Oh well, I feel like the customers are getting screwed every which way with this. Reliant locked a lot of people in during the summer when their rates were the lowest around, now they are among the highest.

So it's the company's fault that customers decided to get a long term contract when rates were high? The rates were better at the time, and I bet everyone that signed it felt like they got a great deal. If anyone did any research into the matter, they would have found that the rates are always the lowest at the very end and very beginning of the year.

I'm signing up right now, probably with Gexas at 11.5 for 12 months. I wish I would have signed up earlier, but I kept putting it off. I think I got lucky because of the way the market has pushed prices down.

[Saleen91]

There wasn't much of a choice. That was the cheapest rate available at the time and the ONLY way to get it was to sign a 24 month contract.

[Blue91]

It's weird b/c our rates never went sky high or anything like that last year with Reliant even though others claimed that was the case for them. *shrug*

[trbstang]

There wasn't much of a choice. That was the cheapest rate available at the time and the ONLY way to get it was to sign a 24 month contract.

That's exactly what I mean. They were the cheapest at that point in time and they wanted everyone to lock in the "low rates". I didn't want to go variable and have the rates go even higher, remember this was when oil was high and natural gas was high too. I would have rather locked it in at .15 than been paying .18 or .21 or more during the summer. Paying a $290 cancellation penalty is still probably less than what I saved during the summer. And my savings over the next year would more than pay for it again.

[trbstang]

It's weird b/c our rates never went sky high or anything like that last year with Reliant even though others claimed that was the case for them. *shrug*

What plan are you on, I want it! LOL! Both Ben and I were on a Provider of Last Resort (POLR) rate, which is the highest in the land, after NPC went out of the business. They hit me with a .21+ rate!!! But when I signed the contract, they did retroactively adjust it down to the "promo" rate of .148 for the time I was not under a contract.

I'm really sick of this stuff, our electric bill has risen form an average of $165 on balanced billing a few years ago to a little less than $300. We may just have to turn off the AC upstairs and seal up half of the house if I want to continue living in it and afford it.

[Rusman]

Ahh, I forgot you guys were screwed by NPC. I can understand your frustration then.

[trbstang]

Well, I just signed up for 16 months at 10.4 cents with Dynowatt energy. Hopefully they won't need a deposit, cause I am going to hate paying for the Reliant cancellation fee! %^&*$# But I figure I will save about $1,700 based on my prior usage rates over the next 16 months vs sticking with Reliant, so I can afford to pay the $290 charge. I'll still be $1,400 ahead.

If you guys haven't checked rates and changed, better do it soon or the rates will go up closer we get to summer!!

[Saleen91]

Holy crap! That's a huge savings! I'll check them out.

[trbstang]

Yeah, my average monthly usage over the past 16 months has been about 1,958 kwh. If I save 5.4 cents per kwh, (15.8-10.4) then my savings is: .054 x 1,958 x 16 = $1,692. I'll keep an exta $106 a month in my pocket!

[Saleen91]

*W()()()0000000ooooootttt!!!!!!*

I just signed up with Kinetic for 12 months @ $.0982 w/ no deposit! They do require automatic billing with a credit card, checking, or savings account. But hell, to go from $.158 kwh to $.098 kwh is HUGE!!!

Also, I just noticed on my latest Reliant bill that they just sold their retail energy business (i.e. the one we deal with) to NRG Energy effective on 3/2/09. So I'm hoping my cancellation bill will get lost in the shuffle. ;)

http://www.kinetictx.com/

[trbstang]

Boy you got lucky! Kinetic had it for 10.3 when I looked, but that was only for 12 months, so I went for the longer term.

[trbstang]

OK, I see what is going on. The Kinetic base rate is .0981, plus a monthly service charge of $9.82, so it ends up costing $108.00 for 1,000 kwh, or 10.8 cents. For 2,000 kwh, the rate would be 10.4 cents because the service charge is spread over more kwhs.
And 10.2 for 3,000 kwhs.

I forgot, mine actually has a $3.95 monthly charge, so my rate is more like 10.6 over 2,000 kwhs. Either way, it is a MUCH better deal than what we had!

[gt350mustang]

i am debating the merits of signing another 3 year contract with my current provider(startex). They are offering 12.8 cents guaranteed for 36 months or I could do like you guys did and get a cheaper rate for a shorter term.

[Chuck98GT]

I've been on Kinetic for a few months now. Just got my July bill. I used 1933Kwh last month, 2500 sq/ft house and a pool that runs 9 hours a day.

Total bill, only 198.67 or 9.97 cents/KwH

[Rusman]

Damn, that's pretty nice. I'm at 11.5. Our bill was $230 for a 2200sq ft house with a wife and 2 kids home all day.

[Chuck98GT]

Most of the time, no one is home during the week day days. The A/C goes up to 85 and drops back down to 79° and 77° for upstairs and downstairs at 4:30.

Last July, before the pool, I used 1337 k/hrs.

[Rusman]

That's pretty 'leet'.

;)

[Chuck98GT]

Lets see who else gets that.

[trbstang]

LOL! I just got my July bill, I didn't open it yet. Last month was $302, and that was at 10.6 per KWH. This month is probably $400+, but at least it is not $600+ like it would have been with Reliant.

[Saleen91]

My July bill was $242 for 2299 kw/h. June was $204 for 1919 kw/h. That's with people here just about all day/every day. Granted we turn the AC up to 79 during the day while someone is home, 82-85 if we leave, and then 76/77 in the evenings, and the pool runs 8 hours/day (4 in the morning, 4 in the evening).

I'm VERY HAPPY I paid the cancellation to Reliant to get out of my 2 year contract for 1/3 more. I think it's BS that out of all of the cancellation fee's, Reliant is the highest!

[Saleen91]

Woohooo! I just renewed with Kinetic for another year and got an even lower rate than when I first signed up! 9.7 cents/kwh now.

[Chuck98GT]

Just re-upped with Kinetic myself for 9.4869 cents k/hr

[Rusman]

Re-upped with Gexa for 9.54 cents kw/hr. After you add all the PUC fees and what not it's an effective rate of 10.7c for 12 months.